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Fat People Smoking

Posted Saturday, February 2, 2008, at 12:27 PM

I recently found out that three Mississippi legislators had submitted a bill to ban restaurants from serving obese people. I looked on the official Mississippi state Web site and there it was, HB 282 and it did in fact propose that eating establishments refuse service to obese people:

MISSISSIPPI LEGISLATURE
2008 Regular Session
To: Public Health and Human Services; Judiciary B
By: Representative Mayhall, Read, Shows
House Bill 282

An act to prohibit certain food establishments from serving food to any person who is obese, based on criteria prescribed by the state department of health; to direct the department to prepare written materials that describe and explain the criteria for determining whether a person is obese and to provide those materials to the food establishments; to direct the department to monitor the food establishments for compliance with the provisions of this act; and for related purposes.



I was ready to take a road trip to Jackson, Mississippi and see if I could have a heart to heart with these three but then I found out they weren't serious. Let me rephrase that, they were serious but they were protesting the anti-smoking blue-noses by proposing the legislation.

I was disappointed because I had come up with a great protest, have lunch counter sit-ins like they did in the 1960s. Not just any sit-in however, sit-ins composed of obese people filling all available space in a targeted restaurant. Can you imagine the law-enforcement people trying to empty the place out? They would get a few out then have to take a break to get their breath, meanwhile more obese people could sneak in the back door. It would be like the itty-bitty cars the circus clowns get out of, an endless line of obese people being hauled off to jail.

And what about the jails? Can you imagine the problems of fitting that many obese people into the cells? The judicial system would crawl to a halt as a legion of fat people clogged its arteries.

Ah, but it is not to be, more's the pity.

If anyone deserves to be mocked its the self-important jerks who think they have a right to rule over other adults decisions, even if it is about smoking. The road to Hell is paved with good intentions. I'm sure the anti-smoking brigades think they are right but they aren't.

"It's for their own good." goes the mantra. Too bad, it doesn't matter. An adult has the right to ruin their life if they want to. "Other people shouldn't have to put up with it" goes another. You don't. You can take your business to a place that doesn't allow it. The free market would insure you could have your smoke-free air and people who choose to smoke would have their polluted atmosphere. "Employees shouldn't have to put up with it" They don't, they have the same right to get a job elsewhere as a customer has to choose which businesses to patronize. What they don't have the right to do is demand an establishment cater to their whims.

For those who want to say something about second-hand smoke. Don't. All of those tainted studies using bad science to come to predetermined outcomes don't impress me. Neither do the "meta" studies which compiles all of the data from all of the bad studies into one humongus pile of useless data that people who don't like smoking use to beat everyone else over the head with.

Here's a clue. Secondhand smoke isn't more dangerous than what the smoker breathes in. It really isn't. If a study comes up with that conclusion the parties involved in the study are lying. Period, end of sentence.

Oh, unless the lung cancer rate among non-smokers is 50 percent, smoking does NOT guarantee the smoker will get lung cancer since it merely doubles the chance of getting it so give that up as well.

Here's a tip for the non-smoking Nazis who want to control what other adults do: Get a life and let the other adults get on with theirs, you have no right and no business sticking your nose into it.


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Overweight people should not be banned to some restaurant! I read the same news on pluscupid.com. They should realise their unhealthy lifestyle is preventing them from enjoying life to the full - that should be motivation enough! Where will it end when we have to bribe people not to be greedy?

-- Posted by bbwgirl69 on Sat, Feb 2, 2008, at 7:15 PM
Steve Moyer's response:
Thanks. Everyone is entitled to live their life their way. Those who try to control others should take it easy.

Hi, and thank you in advance for reading my comment. I want to say I TRY to read your blogs daily if there are new ones, and would enjoy very much posting some of my own writings. I have an eventful life, so there is always something to talk about.

Now for my comment about this writer's blog...I realize that many smokers feel offended when people ask them to step outside. I realize that many smokers feel like the minority, that it's total discrimination to ask them to step out or for businesses to ban smoking in their building(s). Your writer suggests that people are just doing this to be mean or cranky or just to have something to complain about, or to satisfy the cause they were put on this planet for. Since there are usually two sides to every story, I think I deserve to be heard. I am not spiteful, cranky, mean, I don't have a cause that I know of, and I don't think I complain a lot. I have Hyperthryroidism, which has caused heart issues and central nervous system damage for me. My nervous system and heart cannot tolerate exposure to Cadmium. Cadmium is the main ingredient in the tobacco plant. It is highly toxic and can be deadly depending on the size of the dose. While my condition is not the fault of any person, not myself, only my genetic make-up, it has caused my family and me to make modifications in our lives. One of those modifications is that my husband does not smoke in our vehicles nor our home. If he did, I would have a heart attack and most likely not survive it, given my condition. Because of my condition preventing my heart and nervous system from tolerating Cadmium, we are forced to no longer dine out at our favorite places because they all allow smoking indoors. I am forced to use the pay-at-the-pump gas stations where I don't have to go inside. It's not that I don't want to go inside, I CAN'T go inside! We used to go on a long trip every summer. We can't do that anymore because since most convenience stores allow smoking inside, restroom breaks are not possible along the way. Your writer suggests that second-hand smoke does not have damaging effects on others. Contrary to your writer's belief, the chance of the person breathing the second-hand smoke getting lung cancer is 50% higher than the smoker. The smoker is not breathing in the smoke as much as the innocent child in the room is. I did an experiment in college for a health fair. My experiment was done by stuffing a clear plastic bottle with cotton balls and punching a small hole in the side of the bottle that would snuggly hold a cigarette. I did this experiment outdoors with a mask and full body gear on. Every time I squeezed the bottle,the cotton balls turned more and more brown. Another fact is that filling a room with cigarette smoke is no different than turning on your kitchen gas oven to heat your house. They both have carbon monoxide and they are both dangerous and deadly. I am also a teacher and I know which children come from families with one or more members of their household that smoke around them. I see the effects of the second-hand smoke in those children. Those children miss more days of school due to illness than any child from a nonsmoking environment. My daughter used to work in a restaurant that allowed their customers to smoke inside, and she missed triple the amount of days allowed from school in a school year due to respiratory infections caused from that environment. She stopped working there last summer and has not been sick at all. In closing, I would like to suggest that you check the facts instead of strictly using only your opinion.

-- Posted by myvoteisforhealthy on Sun, Feb 3, 2008, at 12:31 AM
Steve Moyer's response:
First of all let me say I'm sorry to hear about your medical condition, it can't be an easy one to live with.

Second I think you are missing the point of what I was saying. I did not indicate that second hand smoke caused NO effect on others. I said that rigorous checking of many studies showed that the claims that it was worse for others than for the smokers themselves were in error.

The smoker is not breathing in the smoke as much as the innocent child in the room is.

What innocent child? Was someone discussing an innocent child? Frankly the only reason I can see that you would mention an innocent child is to deflect attention away from a factually inaccurate statement, that someone in the room with the smoker is taking in more smoke than the person actually puffing on the cigarette.

One of the points I was making was that people have choices. Some people's choices are limited by circumstances, that's life. Should I not eat peanuts because someone may have a peanut allergy and run into me on the street? NO! It's up to the person with the peanut allergy to avoid evil peanut eaters like myself. It is their problem, it is up to them to deal with it. The government should not stick their nose into it.

Finally, as for the fact I put forth my opinion in this blog, that is exactly what it is for, opinion. There are many sections to a newspaper, or a Web site, and this section is for opinion. If you want more Jack Webbish 'Just the facts, Ma'am,' then this is not the place to be.

Wow!! What a response! I can gather several FACTS from your blog and your response:

1. You must be a smoker

2. You must be a smoker who does not care about anyone else's health that you are causing damage to.

3. I will not be able to change your mind even though I would like to.

4. Nonsmokers will just have to be discriminated against because of people like you that are smokers.

Just my opinion....

-- Posted by myvoteisforhealthy on Mon, Feb 4, 2008, at 8:11 PM
Steve Moyer's response:
You refuse to consider what I actually said and continue to respond emotionally to what you think I said.

I never said smokers should be able to inflict their smoke on anyone but themselves. I said there should be places where smokers can go in public. Smokers have the right to be with other people too, they are just as much a person as you are.

The marketplace will ensure that there are places where non-smokers can go in peace and breathe free.

Why do you feel that smokers have no rights whatsoever? If someone wants to open a restaurant and offer smokers a place to eat why should that concern you, you don't have to patronize it. There are way more restaurants that are smoke-free where you can go without being bothered, why inflict yourself where you are not comfortable and are not wanted?

Take away choice and you take away a part of America, an important part.

Let me state outright that I agree that non-smokers should have the right to go out in public without having smoke forced on them. On the other hand smokers should be able to light up wherever they can do so without UNDULY causing distress to others.

What is so bad about that? Is it unreasonable to say that smokers still have some rights? You obviously feel that it is. I will never agree with such draconian, anti-American thoughts.

Here's my comment to smokers. This topic get's me fired up. I used to smoke. I quit when I had children and their father now smokes outside, per my demands. My children are all the healthier for it. The main point I would like to make is this: Who the heck do you smokers think you are, blowing your carcinogens in my clean air? I mean literally in my face and my kids face when we're in public. I'm not saying smokers should quit smoking, but they should be so unselfish as to take their smoke away from other people who choose not to pollute their bodies. How about the time I had to go to the courthouse and walk between two smokers standing on either side of the door. As I choked on their smoke I excaimed, "Wow that stinks!" hoping they would "catch MY drift" I just can't understand why if you choose to smoke you would also to choose to force it on other people. It's a shame that anyone would be so self-centered.

-- Posted by supernaturally on Tue, Feb 5, 2008, at 9:14 AM
Steve Moyer's response:
You are entitled to your opinion, but to reiterate what I said to the other commenter I never said smokers should have the right to inflict smoke on anyone. What I said what they should be able to find a place they could go in public. Non-smokers don't have to patronize such places, they are free to choose a non-smoking environment. And since if there is a buck to be made there will be someone to make it non-smokers are guaranteed a place to go unbothered by what smokers are doing elsewhere.

As for government buildings and such I fully agree that such places should be no-smoking zones. The reason I agree is that you don't have a choice about going into one, eventually everyone has to go there.

Completely agreed!

-- Posted by supernaturally on Tue, Feb 5, 2008, at 1:13 PM

Thank you to "supernaturally" for supporting my position!

I absolutely agree that if it is a place that a person has no choice but to go, the building should have a no smoking policy. There should also be an area designated outside for smokers so that we healthy nonsmokers know, "okay that is the entrance for the smokers and I know it will stink there and I don't want to smell like that or breathe that into my lungs and bloodstream, so I know to use the nonsmokers entrance." There is no reason why government buildings can't enforce this policy. I am a teacher and so of course I work in a government funded building. It absolutely has a no smoking policy. So again, there is absolutely no reason why all government buildings (where we don't have a choice but to go) can't do this.

Mr. Moyer...thanks for putting up with me!

-- Posted by myvoteisforhealthy on Tue, Feb 5, 2008, at 8:18 PM


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