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There is a disturbing trend in this country to push the concept that if some action is not illegal it is not just legal but is wholly right and just. This is a trend that needs to be stopped in its tracks. There are all sorts of things that a person can do that are legal but are immoral, unfair, or just plain wrong.
Adultery is an example. It used to be illegal in many jurisdictions but has now been taken out of the criminal code in most, if not all of them. That's fine, I don't think a person's marital infidelity should be cause for a criminal case. However, I do think there should be a cost to the person that engages in adultery if only a social cost. Such people have broken their word, freely given without duress, to the person that should be able to trust them the most. The former governor of New York comes to mind if only because his case is the most recent public example. It doesn't have to be about Eliot Spitzer but not only is it recent, it also highlights the inherent hypocrisy of the adulterer better than most such examples. Spitzer was a hard-charging prosecutor who went after a lot of high-profile offenders, basking in the aura of invincibility that his position gave him. It turned out that once his adultery became public that invincibility evaporated faster than a water puddle in the Sahara. Spitzer was in charge of prosecuting prostitution while he was a customer himself. Rank hypocrisy at its worst. Spitzer resigned, as he should have, when the public outcry became loud enough. That is an example of public morality working as it should. It doesn't matter whether Spitzer is charged with a crime and ultimately convicted. He has been punished by the community, in his case it was the whole state of New York, but it was community just the same. Public officials who lie to their constituents need to face punishment. It doesn't have to involve prison time to be effective. Losing their position, and the money and power that goes with it may actually be more painful to them than being incarcerated. If we let someone slide because there is no law against what they have done, even if we know it is wrong, we enable other, more egregious, wrongdoing. We do no one a favor by averting our gaze so we can pretend that it isn't happening, not the person doing wrong, and certainly not anyone who is the victim of the person. Its easy to avoid becoming involved, I've avoided involvement myself, but it only postpones the inevitable, it doesn't eliminate it. Community standards have become the butt of jokes, not because they have lost their utility, but because people have convinced themselves that they are "hip" or "cool" or whatever today's generation word is. Such standards are necessary and we should not be afraid to uphold them. Multi-culturalists insist that all cultures and mores are valid, but that is demonstrably false. A culture that values life above death is a better culture than one that idolizes suicide bombers. A culture that values honesty above dishonesty is a better culture. A culture that values the contributions of all its citizens is a better culture than one that says the Jew or the black man is less valuable. Our culture is currently the best one on the face of the planet. It may not last but while it does we should do what we can to pass that on to future generations and we do that by starting small, at the individual level. We can't expect the government to do our job for us, and our job is to form the moral guidelines that future generations will follow. Criminal codes are not the way to do it, they are the court of last resort. The way to pass our moral heritage on to future generations is time-consuming and labor-intensive but there are no shortcuts. Parents must train their families, families are the foundation of our culture and we must build our on a firm foundation, let other cultures build on the shifting sands of changing opinion. Comments Showing comments in chronological order [Show most recent comments first] |
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Who says what is immoral? What set of rules or guidelines do we follow to keep us from doing (not illegal - criminal things) but "immoral" actions? If you say the Holly Bible (King James Version) sets the guidelines, remember it's not our job to judge but to witness. If that's the fact, who says the Holly Bible is the rulebook? There is the Koran, the Book of Mormon, Hebrew Bible and so on.
If we had a family unit that had parents that weren't married two or three time by age 23. If we had a family unit that the children didn't have a grandma that was in her late 20's, if had a family unit that weren't worried about being in the bar three times a week getting drunk, if we had a family unit that wasn't smoking meth, if we had a family unit that didn't stand by the mail box waiting on their government welfare check, if we had a family unit where the grandparents weren't raising their grand and great grandchild, maybe we wouldn't have to worry so much about immoral actions and we could spend more time worrying about ourselves.
God does.
Holly Bible (King James Version)
It's the HOLY Bible. And which version doesn't matter, as long as it is an accurate translation.
If that's the fact, who says the Holly Bible is the rulebook?
For Christians it is the rulebook.
If we had a family unit that had parents that weren't married two or three time by age 23. If we had a family unit that the children didn't have a grandma that was in her late 20's, if had a family unit that weren't worried about being in the bar three times a week getting drunk, if we had a family unit that wasn't smoking meth, if we had a family unit that didn't stand by the mail box waiting on their government welfare check, if we had a family unit where the grandparents weren't raising their grand and great grandchild,maybe we wouldn't have to worry so much about immoral actions
You do realize how foolish that statement is? You just cited a slew of moral failings that proves my point and then say, in effect, "so what".
You suggest we should spend more time worrying about ourselves. That's really moral, forget about our responsibilities to others just wallow in our self-interest.
It is just the lack of moral clarity that you demonstrate is the problem.
Did you forget Mr. Clinton and Lewinski?
But I digress. The big word in bodybags' statement is "family". And yes the Torah sets forth laws for living as told by Moses. Yet somehow these laws became inconvient and got in the way of mans' laws. Our great USA leaders have set the bar for our actions and demand the people of this country respect THEM and not the position they hold. Well they have set a poor example, and our country can be only as good as the people that RULE us. Just my thoughts. not presented for right or wrong, but food for thought.
"You suggest we should spend more time worrying about ourselves. That's really moral, forget about our responsibilities to others just wallow in our self-interest".
It has been my experience with this quote, more times than not this will come back to you. Not always good, more times bad. I am a strong believer of family helping family. My life experiences has shown that most times family will store their inconviences in homes. Or depend on our social service system to provide. I have even seen programs where members of the family are paid to render basic care to family members. Money is the oil that keeps the machine in motion.
Not having an immediate family, being raised in foster care, might give some of us an edge on what a family should be. And I don't think the units of today are for the most part family.
That's right, if individuals would spend more time worrying about/taking care of their on problems then we all would be better off. For example some around this area spend more time being in everybody else's business, when they need to worry about themselves and their family. Like worrying about what so and so kids are doing, when their kids are running a muck, smoking dope and so on.
What makes King James the expert on morality? What makes the King James Version which was written between 1604 --1611 AD the guidelines which some follow and some don't?
Have you ever heard of the Charles Darwin's theory? Then maybe the Bible is a big hoax? I guess there is a fool born every minute.
And my vote is that we know who won that lottery the minute you were born.
I don't care who you cite or what version of the Bible you cite. Need I remind you that God is the one who is judging and that HE is the one who wants us to have and display good morals?
Steve, don't start crying when somebody has a different opinion then yours!
Hey people I was just putting out something to think about.
Also Steve, have you ever heard of using quotation marks?
No, you were rambling incoherently.
This is my personal space and I like using bold for that so I do. Get over it.
Bodybag is going to get everyone's privilege of posting comments taken away if he doesn't stop being so inconsiderate. Please be more careful.
Thank you.
Steve
You are always surprising and this article was no exception. I like the way you stand your ground, intelligently.
The Kurt
Mr. Moyer
I know this was written a while back but, I have only just come across this page. I have to agree with you 100%. What makes this "funny" yet sad at the same time?
A female member of the NEVADA Parks & Rec. ( high up) in 2006, had an open affair with my husband.....how did I find out? They were carring this on in front of my young children ( 6, 8 & 9) were their ages at the time.
What really makes me angry, aside from the fact that they did this to my children, is that this "woman" never tried to hide what she was doing, they were LIVING together before I even filed for divorce. Nevada is not THAT large.
My husband ( in a way) has paid for what he has done....but what about her? This woman works with children & families, I simply cannot believe we have gotten so desensitized, that we can turn a blind eye to such immoral behavior from someone who should be an example for our children.