Prop B 'puppy mill' issue returning to Assembly

"Fisher, chairman of the House Workforce Development & Workplace Safety Committee, denounced labor unions for having helped defeat his 2010 effort to let public school districts forego paying prevailing wages for construction projects.

"Five schools were destroyed by the tornado in Joplin and now the taxpayers have to pay an extra $35 million to rebuild them," he said.

Fisher will support a similar provision this time to exempt schools from such costs occasioned by natural disasters."

Prevailing wages means the workers rebuilding the homes and businesses in Joplin can actually afford to buy one of the homes. Joplin and Jasper county notoriously underpays their workers when compared to the rest of the country. Many people didn't have insurance because they couldn't afford to buy it. Keep them poor and they can't buy anything. Prevailing wages also strengthen the middle class.

Also, Prop B was passed by the voters of Missouri. Just because the Legislature doesn't like the outcome means the Legislature will intervene. Democracy in action.

Prevailing wages and unions are the reasons a lot of our jobs went overseas. High wages aren't the answers to jobs and making a living!

As far as Prop B is concerned - that was a bad prop to begin with and goes to show what a group with a lot of money focused on the uneducated minds of city pet lovers can do to conceil their true motives. I am speaking of HSUS. For the sake of true animal lovers, both large and small, I hope the public wakes up to their real angenda.

Whether or not the dog mill law was good or bad it was voted on and passed by a majority, it was not unconstitutional the only reason a law should be overturned by legislation. The money went to work and they changed the law to continue the practice. So here we have GOP going against the will of the people. ANd I always thought that the right were for the will of the people, oh yea only when it benefits them. What has he done for the local people? Wages for the average worker have remained flat, in Vernon what is the average wage 10$ an hour, yea really going to get ahead on that.

Prop B lost in all the rural counties and will affect them most.

I am glad Prop B passed. But is only a good deal if those enforceing it enforce the law. There are to many back yard breeders that are selling crap dogs just to make a buck. This not only hurts the breed but as a pet buyer you are buying dogs that are more open to hip displaysia and other genetic flaws and buying dogs raised in unhealthy livinging and breeeding conditions. Back yard breeders are only concerned withmaking a fast buck.

Laws were already in place -- they just needed to be enforced! As always it is the lawless who disregard rules and regulations! More laws won't help a bad situation! The 'backyard breeders' will still be there.

The problem with the majority voting on single issues is not that the majority voted for something, but is the rule or law fair or right. A majority of voters in Berlin voted to condemn certain ethnic populations based upon the same methods used by Hitler to malign the people who he wanted to exterminate. So even though a majority may vote for something it does not make it right or fair. The legislature must have the ability to correct such errors. Does the law impose improper restrictions on people's rights. Proposition B had many problems as does all of the HSUS inspired bills because their goal is to end all use of animals for companionship or food. To think otherwise is foolish as they have been very clear through out the years that this is their primary objective. That is clearly Wayne Pacelle's objective. So when a majority is moved by false emotion as were the Germans during WWII to attack segments of the population that HItler had slandered so to does HSUS slander farmers, ranchers, and dog breeders by lying to the public and making it seem that all farmers and dog breeders are bad. There will always be ignorant or bad people and we should take a stance of education, not one of ending all dog breeding for those who do do it right. We also should not assume the majority is always right either. Just because the voters were led down the lane to vote on something that seemed correct does not always make it correct. That is why we have legislators to keep the minority from being oprressed by the majority especially when monied interests like HSUS and PeTA try to ram a bill through by using falsehoods to gain public sympathy. By the way Peter Singer the leader of the animal rights movement wrote an article for the New York Times titled "Should this be the last generation?" Singer was pushing the AR agenda that all of our young people should spay or neuter themselves and then party down guilt free until the last human being dies out. This is the philsoophy behind the animal rights movement cult. Human beings are bad therefore all human beings should die off. What if the majority said all female children must be sterilized at birth. Would you go along because the majority said so? No, and so we should we not let the majority rule on issues that have been clouded by sentiment and not reality. For every bad description that an animal rights person brings up there are 100 more of good descriptions of care. Remember HSUS and PeTA's goals are the same, to remove all use of animals for any purpose what so ever. That means no pets, no medical research, no meat, eggs, milk, fish at all. Is that the world you want. That is what you will get by donating to or voting with HSUS and PeTA.

I am totally for this bill and think before one says it "Hitler like" I want to know have you been to a puppy mill? We fell for the farm raised Scottie and it was simply disgusting the conditions those poor things live in, tiny runs they never get out of, one dog poo and piddling on top of another........We bought the dog I couldn't leave it there and had many medical bills to follow on that poor little guy and he died young of cancer. Shut these places down! There is a major difference between responsible breeding and puppy mills! This puppy mill was breeding 33 breeds.

You are trying to legislate morality, that never works. Who are you going to catch a couple of people trying to raise something to pay their bills instead of being a welfare rat. I applaud them for at least doing something. This law does nothing but take more dollars out of the state the big corporations will just farm it out elsewhere. We are a republic to prevent the misguided ramifications of the ignorance by the masses

this bill isn't going to stop the back yard breeder, this directly effects the licensed breeder, which yes, some should be put out of business, but more inspectors could also have solved alot of the problem.this prop will make it alot more difficult for the licensed breeder, the ones that are honest, to make a living. do i agree with some of their practices, no, but those i do know take very good care of their dogs. like i said, this won't stop the back yard breeder but also opens the door to more strigent regulation of not just breeders but how you run your cattle, chickens, pigs, etc. take a view of other states with similiar props on their books, and see how far they are taking it.

Well said Dr B.

Look what the masses have done for us with gov from the pres down---all parties.

It appears jornmancat supported one of the bad set ups they complained about to--"save a buck" themselves.

You realize that our local rescue group is exempt. I have been there a couple times and the animals are kept in deplorable conditions. On the other hand, the city animal shelter is clean and the animals are treated well.

Great job Dr_Barnes!

Well said Dr. Barnes.

Interesting idea but I need help with this quote from above; "No, and so we should we not let the majority rule on issues that have been clouded by sentiment and not reality".

My question is this, who decides what is reality?

So I guess dr. barnes, what you are saying is the majority shouldn't have a voice, that for sure is Hitler!

Win ~ I can tell you I didn't save a BUCK! But I did save a dog.

Ihe Eldorado Springs shelter is closing. They say the new rules make it too expensive to remain open.

He didn't say they shouldn't have a voice just that the voice they have should not be the only one heard. Should the rioters after a sports mob be not held accountable and allowed to run amok, they are at that moment the majority? Once you do these things they are far harder to undo as we have seen. Of interest here too is where your majority was. It was mostly Kansas City and St Louis that carried this. So would you like us to just resign from life and allow them to run the state? I continue to be amazed at how some of the skull blocked individuals vest so much faith in our care and administration in some distant fool whose only qualification is they live in some city favored by an administrator. For example I was told the environmental controls for all of the Nevada schools are held in Springfield. We need good common sense local leadership to step up. This is a case of good people need to step forward not a need for distant ambigous rule.